Wow! It's been a while since I've been on here. Married now 15 years and still writing away! My job is very logical so this is where I come to be creative! Hopefully I can keep it going again. Help me and suggest stuff to write about.
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Threatened...
But, today, I met with her. She is wonderful with pointing me where I need to go for a job.
I told her about this specific company, which will remain nameless as I would still like to consider the company for a job prospect. I told her how I talked with them at the fair and gave them my resume. They seemed eager for me to find out more about the company. The job that would be for me is called an Interactive Analyst. This job role does Internet marketing.
So, I went to the information session. First, to preface what I am about to say, I am not prejudiced. In the room, the candidates (those not presenting, worked for said company or CSU) were all but 4 of us NOT Caucasian. During the session, the main presenter explained the company, what they do, who they compare to in the area business-wise, and the 3 different roles people get hired into. He talked about how the professionals being hired need to be geared up quickly to be working for the clients quickly. There were questions regarding new hires and how long it takes to get into working with clients. He mentioned about "billable hours," but he didn't go into a further explanation of what "billable hours" was. One of the girls in the presentation I had had a class with a year ago, the news writing class. She looked VERY confused about this. She asked the presenter if she would be working for the company. What they failed to explain, that I explained to her after the presentation was, billable hours are simply this:
1. you work for said company
2. you do work for said client who is paying said company
3. said company bills said client a specific amount for the work you do for said client
4. you get paid by said company
It's as simple as this. I know MANY of the others in the presentation, being that they do not have work experience like I do, were just as confused as she was. I talked to said presenter and explained that and how I explained because I had consulting experience in the past. At the time, he was very appreciative of my explanation.
I explained to my coordinator the companies I spoke with and the results that happened (or didn't happen). Then, she told me she was COMPLETELY floored how the companies just haven't responded to me at all. I told her the story above.
She said to me that she believes these individuals are THREATENED by my level of knowledge and work. That, in some instances, either the person is "small," that I communicated not to their liking (even though I have all this knowledge), or that I'm far too overqualified for any of their jobs. I agree with the "small-thinking" mentality. I believe these reps are THREATENED by my level of knowledge, how I learn things quickly and use what I know EVERY DAY!
So, what she suggested was that I play "dumb" in interviews. I'm sorry. I can't do that! She said, because she and I are much alike how we like to help people; I like to FIX things, at home, at my school, at Cassi's school, etc. etc. But, I'm sorry. I don't think I should have to DUMB myself for anyone. I learned at Ernst & Young how to be mature and learn everything there is to know about EVERYTHING. AND, I learned to share what I know with anyone who asks.
One motto I've always said to people, "If I don't know the answer to what your question is, I'll find it."
So, in the past two years, I've now heard about being THREATENED. In this case, it deals with prospective co-workers who don't know how to be TEAM players, even though they boast how good they are at being TEAM players. She also said these people are probably seeing me as the competition to take their jobs, which is not what I would do at all and HAVE NEVER DONE SO!
Go figure. How do I feel about all this? Mad because someone would be so petty not to consider me as a candidate on the fact that they are jealous of my knowledge. Sad because I have so much to share but walls are being put up in front of me. A feeling of HA because "I know more than you do."
My coordinator said how she sees how much I've done, how much I want to do, I'm very knowledgeable but very down to Earth because of what I've done and who I've helped. She really sees me as a teacher. But, to do that, I need further education that I just can't afford now, even if ever. But, I can do "career" type training.
But, one of the things I'm working on right now (and believe me more writing is EXACTLY what I don't need), I'm prepping myself to start doing freelance writing. There's a Web site, called
www.elance.com
This is a site that's like a middle-man for freelance jobs of ALL kinds. VP - this might be a good idea for you to look at. Once I'm finished and ready, I'll start working on creating proposals for writing opportunities. Even if I get a contract job somewhere or a full-time job, I'll still work on freelance writing as it will only help add to my writing portfolio.
But, I've gone through 2 nights now of my magazine article being reviewed by my classmates. The first night, I got some good ideas of things to add. Some of the costs associated with my purchase of the pellet stove was not included. But, some of the suggestions, things like "How do I maintain the system?"; "How do I store the fuel?" would be questions that I would add in a side-bar smaller story, or even a larger feature story. Tonight, my reader, one of the older ladies, was completely floored at all of the highly technical information included in my story. For someone in her knowledge range, this story would be above her. After, she asked me who I was targeting to send this story to. I told her I was looking at construction-type trade journal. With this reply, she agreed the level of information would be good for that type of publication. Also, I think I floorer her with all the different types of quoting and stories and overall length. I think my professor really enjoyed my story. I know he's read my first draft already. Each day now until the end of the semester, we'll be making SOME type of change to prepare it for publication.
OK. I'm going to elance.com to get my registration finished.
Wish me luck! This weekend, I've got:
1. internship tomorrow
2. pick up vacuum cleaner from annual tune up
3. help Rob get his paper 2b ready for rough draft (paper also based on alternative heating)
4. research and write prospectus for senior survey due Monday at 3pm
5. meeting with Professor Singer Tuesday morning
6. watch movies for film class discussions next week
7. Easter on Sunday
8. Cassi's off next week (no internship and no day classes)
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
I'm IN!
I'm IN!
This means, if you've got a LinkedIn account and are linked to me, you can now be linked to Barack Obama.
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. Got another story to tell. Someone else has said how someone (or companies at large) feel threatened because of the knowledge I own.
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
2 Degrees of Separation
Anyway, I added onto my profile where I went to high school at. Then, I searched for a few people from my high school. Someone who graduated a few years before me was there. I invited him to join my network. He accepted. I took at look at who's on his network.
This is cool...
Politically or not....
I am...
2 Degrees...
From Barrack Obama's LinkedIn Network!
Not sure how he's related professionally to Obama, but I'm going to ask him (or whoever is managing his network) to join my network.
I'll update and let everyone know!
That was my COOL moment for the day (before the CRAP IT'S SNOWING AGAIN! moment)
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Brain-Tied
Anyway, car skidded a little on the ice. So I could explain it correctly, I said to myself how I wanted to say it. Then, I forgot the word.
Have you ever done that? Well, it was 7 pm. I'd been working at my internship since 10 and class since 4 (no break but to move my car).
Let me just say, I CAN'T WAIT TIL MAY 10!
51 days left!
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Saturday, March 15, 2008
Magazine Article
Can you imagine?
Want to read it?
Sorry, not posting the article now. If you would like to see the article, by all means, email me at henneca@hotmail.com. I would be more than happy to supply you with a copy of the first draft. I don't want to post it here because:
1. it's WAY too long;
2. I'm try to get it published and make some cash;
3. this is my story and this is how I want it.
Also, I'll have a few revisions over the next few weeks. Not ready to share it with the public just yet.
Now, I've only got BUTT-LOADS of reading to do for this week, along with 2 research papers to be researching for.
ONLY 56 days until graduation!
Lot of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Tuesday, March 11, 2008
Gas Prices Increase!
Read in this morning's Crain's: (the gas prices prediction drew my eye)
www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=framelink&link=www.vindy.com%2fnews%2f2008%2fmar%2f11%2fa-jump-at-the-pump-sflb%2f&oas=www.vindy.com_news_2008_mar_11_a-jump-at-the-pump-sflb_
A Jump at the Pump
Published:Tuesday, March 11, 2008 By Don Shilling
A jump at the pump
If gas doesn’t hit $4 a gallon this year, expect it by next year, an official says. Sandy Greathouse isn’t overly concerned that local gasoline prices set a record Monday. The Poland retiree drives a Toyota Prius hybrid that gets 60 mpg around town. “It just sips gas,” she said. By switching to a car that’s powered partly by an electric motor, Greathouse, 62, has changed her driving habits — all due to $3-a-gallon gas. She’s not alone. Experts say this year will mark the first time that gas prices will change how some people go about their daily business. Sensing high prices are here to stay, drivers are beginning to look for fuel-efficient vehicles or combining trips.
“The customer has started to acknowledge that he’s paying a high price for gasoline, and it’s cutting into his budget,” said Ed Weglarz, executive vice president of the Association of Food and Petroleum Dealers. Wait until gas prices really get high. Weglarz said he expects gas prices to continue to rise, with the national average hitting $4 a gallon by spring 2009. Some have said it could happen this year. Some places already are getting close. San Francisco, for example, has an average price of $3.71.
Today, the U.S. Energy Information Administration is to release its forecast for gas prices this spring. A month ago, it predicted that the national average would peak at $3.40 in May or June, topping last spring’s record of $3.21. But Todd MacIntyre, senior agency analyst, said the new forecast would be higher than $3.40 because crude oil prices have set records since then. Bevi Powell, a AAA spokeswoman, said the big jump in gas prices last spring is a warning for this year. The average price in the Mahoning Valley soared from $2.47 last March to $3.20 last May.
“That shows you what can happen between this time of year and Memorial Day. It doesn’t bode very well for drivers,” she said. AAA reported Monday that gasoline prices set a record in the Mahoning Valley at $3.219, topping the previous record by more than a penny. If prices increase by 73 cents a gallon this spring as they did last year, the local average would reach nearly $3.95. Prices spike in the spring because more people are driving and refiners are producing a more expensive summer blend of gasoline that has fewer pollutants, Powell said. A variety of global supply and demand factors also impact the price.
Some statistics show that perhaps American drivers have accepted prices will stay high and are cutting back on driving. Gasoline consumption in the past six weeks fell about 1 percent from last year’s levels. The Wall Street Journal said that was the biggest drop in 16 years, except for the declines after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Weglarz said fuel haulers in Ohio and Michigan are reporting a slightly larger drop. They are delivering between 1.5 percent and 2 percent less fuel to gas stations this year. As high prices linger, Americans will make bigger changes than just running two errands at a time instead of one, he said. “We’re going to see a return of people living closer to their jobs,” he said.
Steve Wellman, 42, of New Waterford already has made some concessions to high gas prices, but he doesn’t plan on giving up his long commute. He drives 65 minutes one way to his job as a stationary engineer in Pittsburgh. He spends about $10 a day on gas to fuel his Ford Focus for the 105-mile round trip.
Wellman said his family has combined trips when making errands and uses the Focus instead of the larger car and pickup truck when they can. But moving? “That’s not an option,” he said.
Wellman loves his house that he’s had for 12 years, and he figures that any job in his field would be a long way from New Waterford.
Weglarz said the other change Americans will be making is opting for fuel-efficient small cars and hybrids, which save on gas because they run some of the time on an electric motor. So many Americans have long-term leases, however, that it will take some time for the switch to occur, he said.
It may have already started, however. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler all reported drops in sales of trucks and sport-utility vehicles last month that ranged from 5 percent to 22 percent.
Doug Wilt, a salesman at Toyota of Boardman, said the dealership sells all of the 50 or 60 Priuses it receives each year. Usually, they are sold before they arrive. The dealership had three in stock last week, however, which Wilt attributed to a typical sales slowdown during the winter and a stagnant economy. The cars typically sell for about $23,500, he said. Other automakers have been adding hybrid engines to vehicles big and small. GM, for example, will have eight hybrid models this year. Greathouse said people often are jealous of her Prius’ gas mileage but say they don’t want to drive a small car. She said, however, that her car can fit five comfortably. Her friends have figured that out. She said that when she and her friends are going somewhere together, they will say, “Let’s let Sandy drive.”
shilling@vindy.com
Just so everyone knows, gas prices here in Ohio jumped to $3.459 ($3.46) a gallon. Because of being tight on money, Cassi will end up going with me on Tuesdays and Thursdays to school. My classes in the evening are only 20 minutes away (CSU has a campus closer than downtown Cleveland). Because I took her once, I'll probably end up taking her with me to these classes. Because Pa is farther than my class building, Tuesdays and Thursdays, when I've taken her to Pa's at night, I have, in essence, been taking 3 round trips from Elyria to Cleveland (yep, that's twice a week). Rob is also going to now step up to the plate. On the Monday's and Wednesday's that he has to work, he'll be getting up earlier to get her from school. Then, he'll either take her to Pa's house for me or meet me to get her. Most likely the latter. This way, if she wants to go on weekends and Pa wants her she can have weekends with him so I can focus on my dozens of pages in research and writing.
But, as I feared, the natural gas prices are also on the increase. It was a good thing we switched off our furnace. Remember, I think I said in an earlier post how natural gas increased 7% from December to March. Well, in one month, April's bill, it's suggested that the price will increase 8% more. We got our mailing about how we should "lock in" our gas rate. So, for the rest of the year, we've spent $430 total for heating, versus almost another grand. And, once the temperature starts to rise, like this week, we can cut back on the stove's use.
Want more info about our stove? The stove is made by a company, QuadraFire at http://www.quadrafire.com. I know JellyBean said she wanted one. Well, this company also makes fireplace inserts that are pellet burners. Couldn't tell you how well they work, by my assumption is that they work very well.
OK. Gotta go for now. Wanted to share this story above. I've got some dishes to put in dishwasher and get over to pick up Cassi from her play date.
Lots of love,
Cathy
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Saturday, March 08, 2008
Celebrate Johnny Appleseed Day (March 11)
Celebrate the anniversary of the death of John Chapman a.k.a. Johnny Appleseed on March 18th, 1845 in Fort Wayne, Indiana after more than 50 years of travel.
The following information comes from Wikipedia.org:
Johnny Appleseed, born John Chapman (September 26, 1774–February 18, 1847), was an American pioneer nurseryman who introduced the apple to large parts of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. He became an American legend while still alive, largely because of his kind and generous ways, his great leadership in conservation, and the symbolic importance of apples.
He was also a missionary for the Church of the New Jerusalem, or Swedenborgian Church, so named because it teaches the theological doctrines contained in the writings of Emanuel Swedenborg.[1]
No matter how you celebrate, everyone should at least eat an apple Tuesday! Since I directly copied from Wikipedia, the links should all work!
Lots of love,
Cathy
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Stove Pictures

This is the picture of the stove when it starts burning. We don't have it, but for the front of the unit, there is a fake wood kit. This would sit right in the front glass, in front of the burn pot. You can't see it here, but right in the center, where the you see the flame, is the round, about 2 inches diameter in the center of the pot, sized burn pot.
It does get a little louder in the living room when the stove runs, but overall, it's fine with us. This stove burns with an alternative heating source, also called biomass fuels. Some of these stoves even burn cherry pits, sunflower seeds, soy beans (dried), etc.I'll start posting my journal for my magazine article here tomorrow. It's getting late and don't forget, tonight the clock jumps ahead an hour.
Lots of love to all,
Cathy
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WOW! What a Week!
Drove down the street to get Cassi.
We came home and I made din din. I made Chicken Alfredo, with my favorite recipe for sauce. Rob ate and took a shower. He ended up leaving by 5:30. Luckily, he was able to get to work in a little over an hour.
While he was gone last night, Cassi and cleaned and removed extra toys from her room to the basement. We also rearranged her bedroom. With us not using the central furnace, this allowed us to put her bed in front of her heating vent. This allows her to have an ENORMOUS amount of space in the middle of her bedroom for playing and having friends over for sleepover. We'll be able to put an air mattress in her room so her friends can stay in the room with her. Also, because the closet is on the wall that flanks the garage, the closet tends to ALWAYS be cold. She will be away from the closet and the cold.
Come summer we'll be able to go through her toys in the basement. I think we'll look at taking all her toys out to Jamie's Flea Market to try to sell them. If we can sell them, I'm thinking about giving her part of the money for Christmas presents for her to buy.
Today, Rob came home and snow blowed out the drive and sidewalk before he went to bed. Come the afternoon, the snow blowed back up onto the walkway and in front of the door. I've got pictures from inside the house and out the front door (like I did about this time last year). I'll try to get them posted tomorrow. Sadly, the camera I've got now has a CF card. My laptop has an opening for an SD card. Eh!
But, I've been working on a journal the past week to keep track of what we've been doing with the stove. I'll start posting information about the stove here this week as my rough draft of my magazine article is due this week. But, I won't post the full article until after I've sent it to a magazine for possible publishing.
Lots of love to all,
Cathy
8^ )
Monday, March 03, 2008
20 Hours!
From midnight Saturday night until midnight last night, I slept, yes, SLEPT 20 out of the 24 hours. Luckily enough for me, Rob was working the weekend and Cassi was at Pa's until Sunday evening.
Finally got to bed at midnight after getting my car back from Dan. We swapped car/truck because we used his truck to get shelled corn for our pellet stove on Saturday.
I slept until Rob came home. I know he was tired and exhausted from working. He got into bed at 8:30 am Sunday. I got up, pottied and fell asleep on the couch until 1:30 pm. Got up, at a bagel, cleaned out the pellet stove and fell back to sleep til 4pm.
Got up, heated up din din for Rob. Cassi got home. I took another nap from 6:3o til 8. Got up, got her ready for bed, had to sleep with me. I was up til 10:30-ish. Was back asleep by 11 pm until 7:30 am this morning.
Could REALLY go back to sleep now. But, I'm downtown until 6pm. Oh, well. And, maybe I can get a paper out this evening for my film class. We'll see.
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. I have had to drink 1 can of soda today. Rob thought it was my wanting to "kick" the habit that caused me to sleep so long. I say nay because I drink decaf soda. But, maybe something secret is inside, causing me to want to drink more. Now that I'm getting off soda completely, it's rearing its ugly head. I'm still working on the "kicking" the habit.
Thursday, February 28, 2008
On the Wagon...
So, keep encouraging me. I know I'll "fall off the wagon" here and there. But, my goal is to drop soda like a bad habit!
And, I've lost another pound. Yeah for me!
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. Tomorrow if my career fair. Wish me luck! Yes, Marie, I've got that good paper going into the printer tonight to print my resumes. It's off-white and will be 1 (one) page.
Major Changes to Blog
I had to enable the registered user only for comments and word security. I know this will be a pain, but as VP said, it took her 3 years for someone to stop trying to blog spam her. I will also be moderating the comments as this last comment was from a "blogger" account. It may take a day or so to have comments posted, but in the positive, it will force me to go to my blog more often (like daily)!
Sorry, but it was necessary! More to post soon!
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Sunday, February 24, 2008
"Holey" Cassi
I've been asked by a few friends to show a current photo of Cassi. You may have to click on the photo to make it larger to see what I am speaking of. Last weekend and the week before, Cassi lost 2 teeth. On the second occasion, specifically, she lost the tooth while Aunt Marie was here, and it happened while they were out. Cassi, sadly, lost her fallen tooth. She was so distraught that I couldn't even cheer her up when we called, and I told her of my purchase of a new toothbrush and her new favorite toothpaste. She was so concerned that the Tooth Fairy wouldn't know that she lost her tooth to get her money. She had Aunt Marie write a letter to the Tooth Fairy, explaining the situation. Cassi was in good luck; she got her money. $2But, the photo above was taken this past Thursday. She has 3 holes where teeth have been lost recently.
So, for those of you interested, this is "Holey."
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Saturday, February 23, 2008
Lost Weight and Other Things
As it stands, here's what I've done this week and will do next week:
1. 5-page research paper for Senior Survey on The Canterbury Tales. I wish I remembered more about the book. But, it was 1986 when I read it last. Most of the kids in my class were at least babies when I read it last. Done
2. Take Home Exam #1 for film class. As it stands, I've still got 3 essay questions left and it's due Monday. I'll be taking Cassi roller skating tomorrow and will complete the exam then. So far, the exam is 5 pages typed. I believe my exam will be 10 pages once it's done. Done
3. Rob's English Comp 2. He has a rough draft of an argumentative paper due Friday. (and a quiz that we're waiting to find out why it hasn't posted to the Web site.) Quiz cancelled but got full points for technical difficulties!
4. Rob's Intro to Sociology where he just finished his first exam, which was a couple typed pages. I checked his answers before he submitted the exam. He's also got his usually weekly reading and essay exercises that's due Monday. He will also have me read it to edit it and make sure it sounds ok. Done
5. Reading for Senior Survey for Thursday. Because of the Clinton/Obama debate happening at the college I attend (yes, I attend Cleveland State University), school is closed all day for students. As a matter of fact, downtown Cleveland will be HELL Tuesday. Anyway, I have one tale and the ending of The Canterbury Tales to read for Thursday. Not Going to Be Done. I've got 65 pages yet to read for TOMORROW morning!
6. I have to watch Hotel Rwanda for Wednesday's discussion time on Wednesday in Film class. Done
7. I have 2 chapters to read and exercises to complete for Thursday's Magazine Writing class. Exercises Done
8. I have to finalize my resume, print it, and go to the Career Fair Friday. Edited and Ready to Print!
9. I'm cooking Swedish Meatballs for Rob's Lodge Meeting on Tuesday. Done (EXCELLENT!)
10. Cassi will have homework Monday through Thursday night. She's been getting more independent doing her homework, but I have to review it and sign off everything for her teachers. Done Monday. She's been off the last 2 days! ACK!
11. Housework NEVER Done!
12. Scheduling for 3 people. Rob works Wed & Thurs night. Work in Progress!
13. Keeping the pellet stove stocked with feed and pellets to heat the house. Yes, we haven't had the furnace on now since Tuesday (that's 2/19) at 5pm. The gas company is going to hate us. Work in Progress!
But, right now, I'm watching a little TV. And, Dina (my LARGE kitty) is sitting next to me, sleeping, and getting some "mommy" time. It's Wednesday night and Dina's still with me!
So, I'll close this for now.
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. I've also got to finish Marie's aprons that were for Xmas and mail them to her and VP's gifts. Yes I've remembered, but haven't had the money!
76 Days til Graduation Day!
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
GREAT News!
Whoo! Hoo!
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. Can't talk much. Have a take home test, journaling, reading, and an English paper over the next week.
Saturday, February 16, 2008
If you gotta be warm...
This little one knows how to live the "warm" life!
Lots of love,
Cathy
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Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Hog Dogs for Lunch...
Anyway, there were leftovers. Rob got some today as he's home and I brought some to work. (Rob believes my internship isn't work because I'm not getting paid. He says it's school. I say work because I don't get homework here. But, that's another story.)
I'm sitting here eating the hot dogs. I am reminded of when I was a kid and mom went to the farmer's market, where she would grocery shop. She had a friendly relationship with the meat man. He always let us come behind the meat counter and get samples of bologna, etc. My favorite was getting the hot dogs. They were "home made" hot dogs. And, in case you're wondering, they were cold, uncooked. But, if you think about it, bologna is just a LARGE hot dog.
So, as I am sitting here eating, I am reminded by the smell and taste of my hot dog back to when I was a kid.
Cool how something so small brings back such good memories.
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Monday, February 11, 2008
My Decision...
I started so far with the email to Marie. Sorry, can't divulge my information just yet. All I can say is that it deals with heating a home with something other than natural gas (or propane or electric). That's why it's called alternative.
We'll leave it at that for now. I know in the next few weeks, I've got to have my first draft (entire story) done.
Lots of love for now,
Cathy
8^ )
P.S. Got lots of reading to do for tomorrow.
AND, I LOVE my internship boss. I wasn't able to get to work today because Cassi was home from school and I didn't have anyone for her till the afternoon. No problem. It happens. I'll see you Wednesday.
AWESOME! Wish all jobs were this understanding.
Sunday, February 10, 2008
Cassi Cried...
Well, just before he called, Cassi got up, said she had had a nightmare and couldn't sleep. "Can I watch some TV?"
"No, go back to bed."
After he called, I looked it up on their Web site. Lo and behold, she's off. Should have realized this was going to happen when the outside temp (before the wind chill) was below 7 degrees. For some reason, and I think this is a state requirement, when the air temp reaches 7 degrees or lower, they close the schools.
So, she got up and cried. She couldn't understand why she can't go to school.
Then, she stopped.
And asked if she could watch TV. OK. She's still up now but watching TV in bed.
So sad. But, for me, I don't get to go to my internship. On the bright side, I get to finish some homework for class tomorrow.
Lots of love,
Cathy
8^ )
Pray for me to have patience.
Saturday, February 09, 2008
Video Share...
The Mom Song
This song was done to the William Tell Overture. Excellent! If you're a mom, you've probably said this to your child(ren). If you are not a mom, you've probably heard all of this FROM your mom (and those who are moms heard these famous lines from their moms).
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